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Post by xdalinx503 on Feb 13, 2009 12:29:35 GMT -8
ITS SERIOUSLY TIME FOR EVERYONE TO STOP THE FUCKING HATE ON THE EDGE/FIGHTING KIDS.
YOU GUYS KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED. THAT GAY OPENING BAND WHAT WAS THERE NAME...???
THEY DIDNT SAY IT EXACTLY, BUT THEY BASICALLY SAID "FUCK EDGE KIDS" AS A JOKE.
NO EDGE KID WOULD TAKE THAT AS A JOKE, WE ARE THE ONES WHO STARTED THIS WHOLE SCENE, JAY THE OLD EDGE GUY THAT BOOKED ALL THE SHOWS AT AGATE. HE IS THE REASON ANY OF YOU GUYS THOUGHT OF A PLACE TO PLAY SHOWS.
SO I CONFRONTED THAT GUY THAT PLAYS GUITAR. HE WOULD APOLOGIZE AS WELL AS TAUNT ME WHILE APOLOGIZING. HE WAS LUCKY I DIDNT KNOCK HIS ASS OUT RIGHT THERE. EVERYONE WAS TAUNTING US.THAT UGLY ASS PUNK ROCK GIRL WITH PINK HAIR SAID TO MY EDGE FRIEND JOE "YOU LIKE THAT SONG MY BOYFRIEND WROTE BOUT WEED?" HE DIDNT RESOPND THEN SHE SAID "SHOW WHAT GREAT VALUES YOU HAVE. AND HE LET HER WALK AWAY.
THEN THAT BRAWL STARTED WITHOUT ME KNOWING. FIRST THING I SAW WAS 3 GUYS ON MY FRIEND SO GRABBED THE KID BY THE HAIR (WHICH HE REALLY NEEDED TO WASH IT WAS GROSS) KNEED HIM IN THE FACE A COUPLE TIMES MADE HIM BLEED EVERYWHERE AND CHOCKED HIM OUT.
I DIDNT START ANYTHING, IT WAS EVERYONE TAUNTING US. THATS HOW EVERYTHING STARTED, NOT US STARTING IT ALL OF YOU START IT WITH US AND BECAUSE WE AREN'T GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN WE ARE PUSSYS RUINING THE SCENE. MAYBE PEOPLE LIKE DANNY ARE RUINING THE SCENE LETTING PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH TALKING SHIT TELLING US TO IGNORE IT.
FUCK YOU DANNY, YOU NEED TO REALIZE WHAT THE FUCK REALLY HAPPENED, WHEN YOUR BAND CAME ON I HEARD PHIL TALKING MORE SHIT ABOUT ME AND THE FIGHTERS.
FUCK YOU PHIL, YOU THINK YOU ARE COOL WITH YOUR GAY ASS PIECE OF SHIT BAND THAT SINGS ABOUT NON-SENSE
FUCK EVERYONE IN THIS THING YOU GUYS CALL A SCENE IM GOING BACK TO PORTLAND WHERE THERE IS AN ACTUAL STRONG SCENE
GO TALK SHIT TO ME THERE, SAME THING WILL HAPPEN THERE BUT 74645394367 TIMES WORSE.
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Post by brandon on Feb 13, 2009 14:45:49 GMT -8
i was debating whether or not to acknowledge this post with a response......... i still think ignoring it would have been the best thing, but sooner or later someone would have posted something....
dalin.... its time to grow up. you and me talked last night, i know you know better. youre a good hearted kid, i know you know what youre doing is wrong. man up and admit it.
i like what milo said in the last thread on this subject: "Somebody says something you don't like, you don't punch them. YOU IGNORE IT. That's what normal people do. "
and as for aeolus... you were kicked out for fighting, you didnt hear aeolus say anything. you know where danny and phil stand, they've said it hundreds of times on this board. im sure they wouldnt be tearing you guys down.
as far as going to portland, honestly i wouldnt mind if you and your friends stopped coming to these shows here in eugene until you figure out how to act like an adult.
again, we talked last night, you and me are cool. i just wish you would understand the damage that fighting is causing in this scene.
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Post by jayfatal on Feb 13, 2009 16:44:17 GMT -8
I wish my name would stop popping up in these conversations.....I'm not old....I'm mature..lol. I am as against show violence and immature bullshit as anyone. I never would have booked all the shows I did, if I knew where this scene would end up. It's the main reason I stopped and haven't been to a show in a year. I tried to push positivity and tried to make shows a positive place to be, and the opposite happened. It's really sad to see. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing my name posted during times of negetivity, please stop. What I did for the scene had nothing to do with me being edge or not, I just loved music and wanted to do my part to help others enjoy music...that's it.
love and flowers
jay fatal
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Post by Amber on Feb 13, 2009 21:29:29 GMT -8
I appreciate Jay for what he did at Agate Hall, it was great. Those shows were always fun, minus the fights. He's a good man for doing that for our scene. He needs the positive credit he deserves.
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Post by xdalinx503 on Feb 13, 2009 23:31:28 GMT -8
I am as against show violence and immature bullshit as anyone. I never would have booked all the shows I did, if I knew where this scene would end up. It's the main reason I stopped and haven't been to a show in a year. I tried to push positivity and tried to make shows a positive place to be, and the opposite happened. It's really sad to see. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing my name posted during times of negetivity, please stop. What I did for the scene had nothing to do with me being edge or not, I just loved music and wanted to do my part to help others enjoy music...that's it. love and flowers jay fatal Sorry about that jay you just get into topics cause you created the scene its too bad it got ruined
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Post by xdalinx503 on Feb 13, 2009 23:32:38 GMT -8
dalin.... its time to grow up. you and me talked last night, i know you know better. youre a good hearted kid, i know you know what youre doing is wrong. man up and admit it. i like what milo said in the last thread on this subject: "Somebody says something you don't like, you don't punch them. YOU IGNORE IT. That's what normal people do. " again, we talked last night, you and me are cool. i just wish you would understand the damage that fighting is causing in this scene. how can we be cool if you just talked shit about me?
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Post by brettspagett on Feb 14, 2009 10:14:50 GMT -8
when someone tries to get under my skin for something i truly believe in i just rather give them a big hug or if i'm actually offended by them i just walk away. there's literally like a hundred things you can do before resorting to violence. and if you do PLEASE take it outside. go in the parking structure across the street or something because there's nothing more annoying when a band has to stop playing in the middle of a song to try and stop a fight. it's reedikerous! it just ruins it for everyone there. and then we end up having to find yet another place to play.
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Post by Cory on Feb 14, 2009 10:55:39 GMT -8
ITS SERIOUSLY TIME FOR EVERYONE TO STOP THE FUCKING HATE ON THE EDGE/FIGHTING KIDS. YOU GUYS KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED. THAT GAY OPENING BAND WHAT WAS THERE NAME...??? THEY DIDNT SAY IT EXACTLY, BUT THEY BASICALLY SAID "FUCK EDGE KIDS" AS A JOKE. NO EDGE KID WOULD TAKE THAT AS A JOKE, WE ARE THE ONES WHO STARTED THIS WHOLE SCENE, JAY THE OLD EDGE GUY THAT BOOKED ALL THE SHOWS AT AGATE. HE IS THE REASON ANY OF YOU GUYS THOUGHT OF A PLACE TO PLAY SHOWS. SO I CONFRONTED THAT GUY THAT PLAYS GUITAR. HE WOULD APOLOGIZE AS WELL AS TAUNT ME WHILE APOLOGIZING. HE WAS LUCKY I DIDNT KNOCK HIS ASS OUT RIGHT THERE. EVERYONE WAS TAUNTING US.THAT UGLY ASS PUNK ROCK GIRL WITH PINK HAIR SAID TO MY EDGE FRIEND JOE "YOU LIKE THAT SONG MY BOYFRIEND WROTE BOUT WEED?" HE DIDNT RESOPND THEN SHE SAID "SHOW WHAT GREAT VALUES YOU HAVE. AND HE LET HER WALK AWAY. THEN THAT BRAWL STARTED WITHOUT ME KNOWING. FIRST THING I SAW WAS 3 GUYS ON MY FRIEND SO GRABBED THE KID BY THE HAIR (WHICH HE REALLY NEEDED TO WASH IT WAS GROSS) KNEED HIM IN THE FACE A COUPLE TIMES MADE HIM BLEED EVERYWHERE AND CHOCKED HIM OUT. I DIDNT START ANYTHING, IT WAS EVERYONE TAUNTING US. THATS HOW EVERYTHING STARTED, NOT US STARTING IT ALL OF YOU START IT WITH US AND BECAUSE WE AREN'T GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN WE ARE PUSSYS RUINING THE SCENE. MAYBE PEOPLE LIKE DANNY ARE RUINING THE SCENE LETTING PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH TALKING SHIT TELLING US TO IGNORE IT. FUCK YOU DANNY, YOU NEED TO REALIZE WHAT THE FUCK REALLY HAPPENED, WHEN YOUR BAND CAME ON I HEARD PHIL TALKING MORE SHIT ABOUT ME AND THE FIGHTERS. FUCK YOU PHIL, YOU THINK YOU ARE COOL WITH YOUR GAY ASS PIECE OF SHIT BAND THAT SINGS ABOUT NON-SENSE FUCK EVERYONE IN THIS THING YOU GUYS CALL A SCENE IM GOING BACK TO PORTLAND WHERE THERE IS AN ACTUAL STRONG SCENE GO TALK SHIT TO ME THERE, SAME THING WILL HAPPEN THERE BUT 74645394367 TIMES WORSE. First off let me say, I wasn't at the show. I'm just going off what you posted and what was posted in the other forum. [EDIT:] AND FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AT EVERY LOCAL SHOW I HAVE BEEN TO. Instead of trying to glorify the fact that you "OMG KNEED HIM IN THE FACE 3 TIMES AND CHOKED HIM OUT" why don't you kids grow up and control your anger. go start another edge band or something positive. Especially when you live in Eugene (where 80% of the people smoke weed here) and someone writes a song about weed, and says "Fuck edge kids AS A JOKE", therefore you..."CONFRONTED THAT GUY THAT PLAYS GUITAR. HE WAS LUCKY I DIDNT KNOCK HIS ASS OUT RIGHT THERE. " woo hoo seriously? wow, what a bad ass. I wish I could go to shows, pay $5.00 to get in and then start a fight during the opening band to get kicked out...instead of just...letting the band do what they do. "NO EDGE KID WOULD TAKE THAT AS A JOKE" who fucking cares what people say....you think every time a non-edger hears an edge song or sees one of those "KILL YOUR LOCAL DRUG DEALER" hoodies they want to "confront them and knee them in the face" to "stick up" for their "scene". No, they don't. and most adults wouldn't either. Instead of giving the edge kids a bad fucking rap for fighting (which everyone knows they do, because its true), why don't you mature a little, stop fighting, take the little verbal bashing, and enjoy the music which will all came to see. If being edge is so righteous for you, then maybe you should help clean up their image. you see a brawl, stop it. if someone says "fuck edge kids", laugh. be the bigger person. I know I don't understand edge kids, so maybe most other people don't. so leave it as the ignorant remarks that they were. for example if someone says "fuck body mods to me" or "big lobes are gay" or even writes a song about it. I could care less. I'm not going to make a bad image on people with body modifications for fighting the ignorant assholes that talked shit. as should you for being edge. fighting isn't going to solve anything. so how about at this next show, you tell all of your edge friends, that fighting isn't cool. nor welcome. I'm not trying to hate on edge kids, like I said before I don't really understand the whole "edge scene" or the point on being edge. I have a lot of respect for people who are clean and sober (edge?) adults. but the key word there is ADULT. As Jay just said "I'm not old....I'm mature..lol. I am as against show violence and immature bullshit as anyone. I never would have booked all the shows I did, if I knew where this scene would end up. It's the main reason I stopped and haven't been to a show in a year. I tried to push positivity and tried to make shows a positive place to be, and the opposite happened. It's really sad to see. What I did for the scene had nothing to do with me being edge or not, I just loved music and wanted to do my part to help others enjoy music...that's it." You guys claim to "STARTED THIS WHOLE SCENE" when in reality you're the ones helping to destroy it. we're all adults here. when I go to a show, I'm not going to watch kids get in fights. I'm not going there to interrupt the bands sets. Fuck, I'm not even going there to socialize and/or get cool points. I'm going there to watch musicians perform, have a good time, and listen to some good local music. the end.
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Post by username on Feb 14, 2009 12:42:46 GMT -8
With all due respect, there was a scene (and, honestly, a more vibrant scene) long before Agate Hall came into the picture.
And long before Edge was a big deal around here, was was conflict between the gutter punx and the hardcore kids, between the North Eugene clique and the Springfield clique, between your mom and my mom. Whatever. The point is, music isn't about punching people.
If you got to a show and can't help but getting into a fight, there's not a lot of incentive for the rest of us who don't do that to want you around. Saying that you'd rather go to shows in Portland really isn't a threat to our emotional stability. Would we rather you stuck around and stopped punching people at shows? Yes, absolutely. Would we be sad if you didn't stick around because you felt victimized by the fact that people don't like it when you get in fights at shows?
Nope. Turns out that doesn't really make us that sad.
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Post by jordanriley on Feb 14, 2009 13:06:13 GMT -8
lets just keep beating a dead horse.
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Post by travis on Feb 14, 2009 13:32:40 GMT -8
Wow...
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WOW.
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Post by jordanriley on Feb 14, 2009 13:37:28 GMT -8
DANNY AND PHILL FUCK YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE A SCENE, AND TRYING TO MAKE IT A FUN SAFE ENIROMENT FOR PEOPLE TO GO WITH OUT GETTING BEAT UP!!! YOU GUYS SUCk!
lawlz
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Post by travis on Feb 14, 2009 13:40:18 GMT -8
Dear Jordan, When quoting me, please give me credit. Thank you very much.
Yours truly, Travis
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Post by jordanriley on Feb 14, 2009 13:41:17 GMT -8
oh sowwy "DANNY AND PHILL FUCK YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE A SCENE, AND TRYING TO MAKE IT A FUN SAFE ENIROMENT FOR PEOPLE TO GO WITH OUT GETTING BEAT UP!!! YOU GUYS SUCk!" - travis
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Post by xdalinx503 on Feb 14, 2009 15:58:51 GMT -8
okay you dont go to shows you aren't a part of the scene fuck you everyone hates you
and you make no sense
if someone makes fun of something you believe in. and you dont fight for it.
you must not really believe in it all of you guys are stupid pussys that wont stand up for your scene
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