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Post by chris on Mar 30, 2009 12:12:13 GMT -8
.....between $8 and $5? (Besides the obvious $3 difference). There were several people that said they'd attend the 3/27 show at the Indigo had it not been $8. These are all people who have gone to most 541MS shows that were $5. What's the difference here? I mean, yeah, $8 does look like more, and it certainly is $3 more. But come on.....really? For someone who works minimum wage, that is less than a half hour's work. For someone in a tipping job like me, that is like one decent delivery's tip. For someone not working, that's like one less medium mocha at Cafe Roma or Starbucks. I've had all kinds of reasons for not going to local shows (most of them include my work/school schedule) but the cost has never been one of them. I'll gladly shell out $5-$10 to see some local bands and some rad touring bands if I had the night off work. Then again, maybe you're all sick of seeing Aeolus and/or Of Mountains (not gonna be mad about that) but if that were the case, just say so. Don't blame it on an extra $3. Maybe I'm coming off a little bitter, but what I'm referencing was a Friday night show at a new venue with great touring bands and 2 local bands that have always had a great draw. I dunno, maybe we just dropped the ball on the promotion. So tell me, please: Did you not go because - You've seen Aeolus and/or Of Mountains way too many times,
- You don't like any of the bands on the bill,
- You don't like the Indigo,
- You didn't know about the show,
- $8 is far too much to pay for a local show, or
- Other (please explain)
I want to make all the shows at all the venues where 541MS promotes huge, so your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys P.S. Thank you, of course, to everyone who did attend. It was a pretty fun show! |
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Post by k3ll1 on Mar 30, 2009 12:31:58 GMT -8
most younger people that go to shows dont have jobs....and the more added on the the price, its just that much harder to find that extra money (or to find the extra cans to cash in). and i think we are a little used to the 5 bucks( or 3 bucks for 21 and over) 8 was kind of a shock. thats awesome you have a job that makes tips but most of us dont (most that i know). of course id be at every show if i had a job or an income and id probly think the same way you do about 8 bucks not being a big deal. but times are tough. Ps. i managed to scrape up the change and went and enjoyed it. it was a nice change of pace  |
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Post by phil on Mar 30, 2009 13:30:29 GMT -8
I was really bummed by the turn out. that was really lame. this is the second time no one has showed up to a venue in time for Shining through. also why is it that 1 people have read this but only 2 people have replied and BOTH of them were at the show?
come on folks speak up talk we need to know? was it us and of mountains the money promotion?
its all ages at a rad venue on a FRIDAY. 3 bucks cant break your bank that much.
lets talk and figure it out.
good thread lucia.
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Post by ohheyitszach on Mar 30, 2009 13:55:10 GMT -8
I wasn't available to come otherwise I probably would have. Being an RA and full-time college student leaves me with nights stuck in the dorms. It happens with everyone's jobs.
I'm not a fan of metal only bills at bars or whatever, just gonna put that out there so you probably won't see me at all the metal shows. It also helps getting touring acts involved more than just a local bill every Friday, although those can be just as fun if the locals love the band. We'd do those a lot in Ft. Wayne, IN and I know Portland had it with old Brutal Fight/Inked in Blood shows.
And seriously, 8 bucks is still cheap for a show guys. I know everyone loves when 503 kids say "In Portland..." at the beginning of every post but really, shows could be 10+ every time. 5-8 bucks is a good price. That's less than a movie and you're helping to support a positive atmosphere towards hardcore and metal around here.
So in short, if money's the issue, get a job or stop buying Starbucks and brew your own coffee. Actually, investing in good coffee equipment and beans will end up being cheaper and tastier in the long run. Mmm Stumptown...
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Post by emily on Mar 30, 2009 14:34:08 GMT -8
It's not that $8 is a king's ransom, we all know that. But, for people who don't get tips or don't work very many hours in the first place, it can be a really big difference. I know it's similar in price to a lot of shit people do/waste their money on, but some people aren't not attending a show and then buying a coffee or going to see a movie. I am reluctant to spend $8 on anything, so it's not strictly a music offense. And it's not that i'm the poorest person but I really do have to watch my spending these days. Anyways, I did change my mind and decide to fork over the cash to support my boyfriend and the bands playing (as well as 541ms) and I do think it was worth it.
On another note though, I saw minimal promotion for this show. I've heard that the Indigo isn't ace on promoting but I literally only saw a couple bulletins on myspace with fliers and the rest was word of mouth (which cannot be relied too heavily upon), so that was probably part of the reason for the turnout being the size it was.
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Post by k3ll1 on Mar 30, 2009 14:44:14 GMT -8
Getting a job isn't as easy as you think in this town. You should know that.
And I do brew my own coffee thanks.
I also saw minimum promotion for the show. I only heard about it from alex who seemed to be the only one prommoting it.
Also, most of the younger crowd around here are more into metal shows I've noticed. So that could be another reason for the not so good turnout.
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Post by brandon on Mar 30, 2009 14:56:28 GMT -8
welllllll, i had several reasons not to go, most of which involved previous engagements i would have had to blow off to go to the show. i do have to say though, that the $8 was the clincher. i just spent $450 that i didnt have (thanks phil, lovin the gear, it was worth it!) and now im very broke. it is also the end of the month, and money gets tight for me and im sure many other people.
but enough of the specifics of why I myself couldnt come....
now that i think about it, there wasnt much promotion... i only knew about it because ive been watching alex acuna's national trek with ST on myspace... i am not sure too many people knew who the touring bands were, and its not that of mountains and aeolus arent worth the money, but when we can see them for $3-5, $8 makes a huge difference.
im sad that no one showed up... i regretted not going, but there was pretty much nothing i could do about that...
on another note, the two all ages samurai duck shows charged $5 a piece, i think... and theres a whole thread about how we should have dropped the price to $3... people are just plain broke......
as chris alluded to, $3 is a good tip on a delivery... but $8 is an hours worth of work. i only get 20 of those and i have a lot of bills to pay. im not going to spend an hours worth of work to go to a show unless its gonna change my life.
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Post by chris on Mar 30, 2009 15:45:57 GMT -8
For the record, the venue set the price. We would've had it set at $5 if it were up to us. That's something I'm going to talk to the Indigo about in the future.
Thanks for all the replies, by the way. Keep them coming! We need to know how we can make this better for everyone involved.
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Post by alexacuna on Mar 30, 2009 16:23:28 GMT -8
when i talked to the promoter, they dropped the cost's from the venue from 450 to 100 that night, origionally they were charging $10 at the door for LOCAL shows, which is preetty outrageous. They're working on changing it to $6 at the door which seems pretty reasonable, plus the costs are low enough now that we can afford to (with the right amount of promotion) bring good bands to town. i'm thankful to EVERYONE that made it out to the show though, it was definitely one of the better show of the week. thank you to anyone who came to support despite of the cover charge and lack of promotion. |
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Post by perry on Mar 30, 2009 18:02:34 GMT -8
I would've gone for sure, but I'm in Arizona. That sucks that the turnout wasn't desirable. I go to shows even if they aren't my fav bands. Just to see friends and support local music.
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Post by jordanriley on Mar 30, 2009 19:56:38 GMT -8
it wasn't the price, why are people complaining about the price? is was the terrible lack of promotion, bottom line.
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Post by brandon on Mar 31, 2009 0:24:50 GMT -8
well, as i said, it sort of was the price for me. im a cheapskate whining loser though. i knew full well about the show. and as k3lli said, alex did a good job at promoting it, even though hes out of town... i saw bulletins and crap about it all the time, but i guess only his 'space friends knew about it.
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Post by chris on Mar 31, 2009 0:52:31 GMT -8
it wasn't the price, why are people complaining about the price? is was the terrible lack of promotion, bottom line. It looks like money was a factor to a lot of people: i would love to go. but.... 8 bones. I am reluctant to spend $8 on anything, so it's not strictly a music offense. And it's not that i'm the poorest person but I really do have to watch my spending these days. most younger people that go to shows dont have jobs....and the more added on the the price, its just that much harder to find that extra money (or to find the extra cans to cash in). and i think we are a little used to the 5 bucks( or 3 bucks for 21 and over) 8 was kind of a shock.
Don't got no cash dude. Otherwise I hella would've. Mang.""Mar 26, 2009 4:10 PM
prolly not.8 bones is way too spendy for me in these harsh economic times we're in."
Anyway, though, I agree on the lack of promotion. I lost quite a few hours of work before/during Spring Break. I had plenty of time to promote, but a lot less funding than usual. I decided to promote it online only. I ended up pasting the flier on 4 pages worth of our friends. I also posted several bulletins from the 541MS site, the OM site, and had a thread on here. I also mass e-mailed every user on here about it. Not sure how many people got that one. Phil and Aeolus also promoted online a lot, as did Alex. I think there are a few morals to the story. First off, kids don't wanna pay that much for a local show, unless it's their friends playing (and we did have a lot of buds there). Second, and probably more importantly, Myspace promotion is never enough. We learned that one the hard way. Kids don't look at bulletins, they don't really look at fliers in comments, etc. You have to have strong street and online promotion in conjunction with each other to solidly promote a show. Lesson learned, I guess. |
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Post by brandon on Mar 31, 2009 7:27:54 GMT -8
so, uh, what was the official head count anyways?
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Post by chris on Mar 31, 2009 8:26:42 GMT -8
so, uh, what was the official head count anyways? Didn't get one, but it couldn't have been more than 50. |
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